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the most interesting thing, though, from the boehner aide was that john boehner believes there is not enough time from now until the end of the year to actually have a grand bargain. there's enough time, though, to put together the framework for what a grand bargain would look like. essentially have the top lines agreed to that by sometime in 2013 you could have both the chambers, the senate and the house, come together on some substantial tax reform, entitlement reform, and get rid of the sort of automatic cuts that we see as a sequester, and the tax increases and have a mechanism you can replace them with. listen to the congressional leaders in their photo op in the white house before thanksgiving that they had today. >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. >> we have a cornerstones of being able to work something out. we're both going to have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we should have a goal in terms of how much deficit reduction. we should have a deadline before christmas. >> we fully understand
the most interesting thing, though, from the boehner aide was that john boehner believes there is not enough time from now until the end of the year to actually have a grand bargain. there's enough time, though, to put together the framework for what a grand bargain would look like. essentially have the top lines agreed to that by sometime in 2013 you could have both the chambers, the senate and the house, come together on some substantial tax reform, entitlement reform, and get rid of the sort...
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house speaker john boehner was easily re-elected to the post on wednesday with the exception of one vote, texas congressman nominated former speaker newt gingrich. it would have been perfectly legal but no one seconded the nomination. his fellow texan congressman ron paul gave part one of the farewell speech as he prepares to retire at year's end. >> sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world. >> national journal reports wisconsin congressman and former vp hopeful paul ryan will remain house budget committee chairman after being granted a gop waiver to avoid being term limited out of that spot. >>> senate majority leader harry reid lashed out at massachusetts senator scott brown mocking brown's calls for bipartisanship as a joke, describing brown as one of the most partisan senators ever to serve. >>> we now know which political office may be sought by another member of the bush family, george p. bush. his father, former florida governor jeb bush, confirms in a letter to potential donors that
house speaker john boehner was easily re-elected to the post on wednesday with the exception of one vote, texas congressman nominated former speaker newt gingrich. it would have been perfectly legal but no one seconded the nomination. his fellow texan congressman ron paul gave part one of the farewell speech as he prepares to retire at year's end. >> sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world....
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john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are born here, first secure the border, pathway to citizenship, done. whatever little penalties you want to put in there. then it's done. >> pathway to citizenship, done. where was all this talk before the election? you see this is all about getting votes. it's not coming from the heart. reforming immigration policy is a huge risk for the republicans. they could alienate their base. there's no guarantee they will win the latino vote in the long run. let's turn to ruy teixeira. great to have you with us. >> delighted to be here. >> you predicted thi
john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are...
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and then if you watched them, john boehner, speaker boehner looked like a defeated man. it was like saying okay, we are going to come to the table with you. and president obama, despite speaking about compromised, it wasn't a very comprise-y style of speech. it was clear that he knew he had the leverage. he wasn't going to accept anything that didn't end with taxes being part of the final solution here. >> well, jonathan capeheart, boehner knows that the pressure is all on him. the senate has already passed a bill that does what the president wants to do in taxation. it reduces the taxation below the top rates and the house can either pass that bill or not pass it. and if they don't pass it, what will happen in terms of january 1st ratgoing up is on them. >> it's on them. the president said in his remarks today that you know, his plan's not written in stone. the one he campaigned on. he's willing to hear any good idea from anyone. but it's unclear whether john boehner is going to be able to come to the table with an alternative idea that they can hammer out in time for a
and then if you watched them, john boehner, speaker boehner looked like a defeated man. it was like saying okay, we are going to come to the table with you. and president obama, despite speaking about compromised, it wasn't a very comprise-y style of speech. it was clear that he knew he had the leverage. he wasn't going to accept anything that didn't end with taxes being part of the final solution here. >> well, jonathan capeheart, boehner knows that the pressure is all on him. the senate...
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. >> house speaker john boehner is also standing his ground, speaking ahead of the president friday. the speaker says he remains unwilling to raise taxes on upper income earners. >> everyone wants to get our economy moving again. everyone wants to get more americans back to work again. raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> joining me now, white house correspondent for the hill, amie parnes and "washington post" congressional reporter ed o'keefe. hi, you guys, good to see you both. let's talk fiscal cliff with you, starting with you, amie. the president says upper income americans are going to have to pay higher taxes. leader boehner essentially says no, that's a nonstarter. is all this just posturing and both have an idea where compromise is going to lie? >> i think they're trying to posture. but i think right now, president obama has the upper hand. i mean he's just won re-election. he's basically telling people, look, the american people elected me, because they want a stronger middle class. they want me to push what i have
. >> house speaker john boehner is also standing his ground, speaking ahead of the president friday. the speaker says he remains unwilling to raise taxes on upper income earners. >> everyone wants to get our economy moving again. everyone wants to get more americans back to work again. raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> joining me now, white house correspondent for the hill, amie parnes and "washington...
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can john boehner match him in any of those departments? >> -- he said i'm open to new revenue. he didn't say whatever -- eliminating deductions -- it's not. you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going wait a minute, i got two big risks. one i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff, meaning i tried so hard to get my way that we screwed it up with the republicans like we did last august and nothing gets done and the economy tanks again for a second recession and i'm going down in history as a double failure. >> he can't let that happen. >> at some point he has to pull back from the paul krugmans of the world and the people on the far left, not far left but left, and say i'm president, you're a columnist. >> right. he has -- he's
can john boehner match him in any of those departments? >> -- he said i'm open to new revenue. he didn't say whatever -- eliminating deductions -- it's not. you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going wait a minute, i got two big risks. one i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate...
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can john boehner match him in any of those departments? >> -- he said i'm open to new revenue. he didn't say whatever -- eliminating deductions -- it's not. you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be a tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going, wait a minute, i got two big risks. one, i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff, meaning i tried so hard to get my way that we screwed it up with the republicans like we did last august and nothing gets done and the economy tanks again for a second recession, and i'm going down in history as a double failure. >> he can't let that happen. >> at some point he has to pull back from the paul krugmans of the world and the people on the far left, not far left but left, and say i'm president, you're a columnist. >> right. he has --
can john boehner match him in any of those departments? >> -- he said i'm open to new revenue. he didn't say whatever -- eliminating deductions -- it's not. you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be a tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going, wait a minute, i got two big risks. one, i can't defend my philosophy which my base will...
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. ♪ ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national l
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....
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and i can guarantee the white house and president obama may show those quotes of john boehner and eric cantor. >> haley barbour on taxes, and this is from the republican governors association meeting in la las vegas. quote, if there's enough savings, if there's enough certainty about tax reform the next few years, i would, former governor haley barbour said when asked whether his party should consider softening its opposition to letting the bush tax cuts on the wealthiest expire. i mean, that's just an amazing, amazing, amazing switch from where we even were on the campaign trail last week. >> well, that's right, luke. and also governor bob mcdonnell said something else. elections have consequences and that, of course, was a line republicans used in 2011 during the debt ceiling negotiations as well as all of the other times they were actually trying to trim the budget deficit saying, look, this is why we were elected in 2010 to come and do this. now president obama has that same argument in 2012. look, the presidential contest was fought on the contours of raising taxes on the wealthy.
and i can guarantee the white house and president obama may show those quotes of john boehner and eric cantor. >> haley barbour on taxes, and this is from the republican governors association meeting in la las vegas. quote, if there's enough savings, if there's enough certainty about tax reform the next few years, i would, former governor haley barbour said when asked whether his party should consider softening its opposition to letting the bush tax cuts on the wealthiest expire. i mean,...
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same folks on the debt ceiling crisis, the president, john boehner. john boehner this week revealing to a lot of folks that he is the most reasonable man in washington, d.c. what do you think? how do you think this thing plays out? >> i've actually long thought that boehner is very reasonable, and if given the opportunity wants to come to the table and resolve the issue. and now the election does give him the opportunity. it gives him something when he goes to his caucus saying listen, you are absolutely right, and you have your chance to speak. but you're not going to drive the party's identity. you're not going to drive the message. and i as the leader of the party in the house now can be able to go to the white house and make a deal. there is going to be a deal struck. you're absolutely right. and this will be a story for a while. then they come together and get it out of here. we'll start talking about something else because we as republicans need to talk about something else. the fiscal cliff is not making the republicans any more popular. and ri
same folks on the debt ceiling crisis, the president, john boehner. john boehner this week revealing to a lot of folks that he is the most reasonable man in washington, d.c. what do you think? how do you think this thing plays out? >> i've actually long thought that boehner is very reasonable, and if given the opportunity wants to come to the table and resolve the issue. and now the election does give him the opportunity. it gives him something when he goes to his caucus saying listen,...
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. now,ere's one that will ke you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybri
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....
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i want to say, tamron, that it was house speaker john boehner's birthday. president obama gave him a bottle of wine. >> kristen, you spoimed it. we were going to show that later. rats. really, kristen welker? >> caller: so, sorry. >> i have something else to ask you about. i'm just giving you grief. the civic meeting is taking place, the reverend al, the national action network, and he's meeting with civic leaders. is he prepares some on the letter r left for concessions or things they may not like that comes out of these negotiations? >> reporter: well, i think it's both. i think it's that he's trying to prepare some on the left for concessions. he's trying to build up really his strength to be able to put pressure on republicans to come to the table with him over taxes. president obama meeting with with union leaders early this week, also business leaders, so he's really trying to form a broad consensus, i think, to put pressure on republicans and democrats to get something done, to actually get something accomplished before that january 1st deadline. tam
i want to say, tamron, that it was house speaker john boehner's birthday. president obama gave him a bottle of wine. >> kristen, you spoimed it. we were going to show that later. rats. really, kristen welker? >> caller: so, sorry. >> i have something else to ask you about. i'm just giving you grief. the civic meeting is taking place, the reverend al, the national action network, and he's meeting with civic leaders. is he prepares some on the letter r left for concessions or...
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i think you heard john boehner say that already. we have had votes in the senate where we have gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's given and the vast majority of the americans agree with that. the question is, how do you do that and how do you allow taxes to rise? at the same time, you fix the real problem and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively, not just under this administration, under republican administration. so, you have to approach both sides of it. >> let me turn to senator schumer. i will ask you the same question. if the mandate is compromised what do democrats have to be prepared to accept as a painful outcome in order to achieve compromise? >> well, i agree with you, the mandate is compromise. that's why we have a divided house and senate. i think if the house stands for anything it is cut government spending, as tom coburn said, and i think we have to do more of it. we heard the mandate 2010, where it was a clear mandate you cut spending and we did, we cu
i think you heard john boehner say that already. we have had votes in the senate where we have gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's given and the vast majority of the americans agree with that. the question is, how do you do that and how do you allow taxes to rise? at the same time, you fix the real problem and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively, not just under this administration, under republican administration. so, you have to...
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i think you heard john boehner say that. we've had votes in the senate where we've gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate continue to cut spending, but they have to hear the than date real revenues not like dynamic scoring. >> and here's what happens if no agreement is reached before january 1st.bush tax rates expire. emergency unemployment benefits will end. the 2011 payroll tax holiday expires. and $984 billion in cuts will be triggered. joining me now, andy sullivan and sher a tupletts. what do you expect to come out of the meeting friday and will any real progress made? >> oh, no, but i think the optics will be important. there will beside by side getting their picture taken and i think this will reassure voters and most importantly investors that they are serious about the problem and they want t to get something done before the end of the year. they've pretty much gotten a free ride from the markets. everybody knew this was co
i think you heard john boehner say that. we've had votes in the senate where we've gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate continue to cut spending, but they have to hear the than date real revenues not like dynamic scoring. >> and here's what happens if no agreement is reached before january 1st.bush tax rates expire. emergency unemployment benefits will end. the 2011 payroll tax holiday...
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but expect it will be john boehner working along with the president. i'm sure mitch mcconnell will be very closely involved in the discussions with leader boehner. >> you don't believe a deal should come out of the senate and then be introduced in the house? >> well, i think the elections are over. we need to find solutions to help our country move forward in a positive direction and as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staffs says the biggest threat to our national security is actually our debt. we need to get this spending under control and get people back to work. >> i want to talk about this issue of taxes and tax rates and get you to respond to something from not exactly someone who is known as a liberal thinker here. take a listen. >> it won't kill the country if we raise tax as little bit on millionaires. it really won't, i don't think. i don't know why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000. make it $500,000, make it a million. the republican party is going to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of w
but expect it will be john boehner working along with the president. i'm sure mitch mcconnell will be very closely involved in the discussions with leader boehner. >> you don't believe a deal should come out of the senate and then be introduced in the house? >> well, i think the elections are over. we need to find solutions to help our country move forward in a positive direction and as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staffs says the biggest threat to our national security is...
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julian, this is what house speaker john boehner told politico the day before the election about whether president obama has a mandate on this issue. listen, our majority is going to get re-elected, we'll have as much of a mandate as he will to not raise taxes. what do you say to mr. boehner and his supposed mandate right now? >> well, i think that he said that the election would be a mandate, it was, and he lost. and i think that the important point about the crystal comment is that there's now a wedge in the republican party that the president needs to exploit. there's a wedge between the realist wing and the kind of fa fantasy, childish wing. the realist wing understands the president has a mandate. democrats won the presidency and the senate. we won a majority -- we won the popular vote if you add up the house races as well. look, i think it's in both parties' interest to avoid the fiscal cliff. neither of them want it for a whole host of reasons, including it will be damaging to the economy. we learned recently that president obama in august of 2011 was kind of ready to do a nixon g
julian, this is what house speaker john boehner told politico the day before the election about whether president obama has a mandate on this issue. listen, our majority is going to get re-elected, we'll have as much of a mandate as he will to not raise taxes. what do you say to mr. boehner and his supposed mandate right now? >> well, i think that he said that the election would be a mandate, it was, and he lost. and i think that the important point about the crystal comment is that...
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here is john boehner this weekend. >> 2013 should be the year to begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform. together we should avert the fiscal cliff in a manner that ensures 2013 finally is that year. >> no accident, by the way, it was boehner who did the republican response to the president this weekend. the president holds the most leverage in the next two months, directly after the election and before tax rates expire. when the threat of a tax increase on the middle class hangs over the negotiations. republicans would like to try out the negotiations to see the political climate is better for them in the next congress. the big question is how much did the white house learn from the failed debt talk to 2011? will the president bypass leader ship and begin to try to deal directly with the republican senators who have sounded the most open to compromise. >> i think there is a deal. the ying and yang of this is we know there have to be revenues. look, i haven't met a wealthy republican or democrat in tennessee that's not willing 20 contribute more as long as t
here is john boehner this weekend. >> 2013 should be the year to begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform. together we should avert the fiscal cliff in a manner that ensures 2013 finally is that year. >> no accident, by the way, it was boehner who did the republican response to the president this weekend. the president holds the most leverage in the next two months, directly after the election and before tax rates expire. when the threat of a tax increase on...
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>> speaker john boehner on friday, appeared to give a little ground, suggesting that limits on tax deductions could be part of a deal, something that senior obama adviser, david axelrod, said was a step in the right direction. >> i think the speaker's comments have been encouraging. and obviously, there's money to be gained by closing some of these loopholes and applying them to deficit reduction. so, i think there's a lot of ways to skin this cat, so long as everybody comes with a positive, constructive attitude toward the task. >> axelrod also pointed out that exit polling from the election showed 60% of the american agreed with raising taxes on the highest earners. >>> there's a renewed focus on immigration policy, following a presidential election that saw a growing divide between republicans and the hispanic community. now, two senators on opposite sides of the aisle says they're confident they can push through reform. chuck schumer and lindsey graham are revisiting a plan they proposed together back in 2010. >> i think we have a darn good chance, using this blueprint, to get something d
>> speaker john boehner on friday, appeared to give a little ground, suggesting that limits on tax deductions could be part of a deal, something that senior obama adviser, david axelrod, said was a step in the right direction. >> i think the speaker's comments have been encouraging. and obviously, there's money to be gained by closing some of these loopholes and applying them to deficit reduction. so, i think there's a lot of ways to skin this cat, so long as everybody comes with a...
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the question is, this is -- i think a lot of it is on john boehner and mitch mcconnell. can they say to the base of the party, we need to make this deal. it is good for us politically. it is good for the country policy wise, and we need to move on, or do the grovers of the world win out? >> david, thank you very much. chris cillizza. coming up, more fallout from the david petraeus situation. we'll talking to david ignatius. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! actually, honey, i think i did... oh? you did? whoa, ladies, easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. we can help avoid this with cascade complete pacs. over time, the other premium pac can leave cloudy, hard water deposits, but cascade complete pacs help leave glasses sparkling. shiny! too bad it doesn't work on windows. okay, i'm outta here. more dishwasher brands in north america recommend cascade. in north america is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a l
the question is, this is -- i think a lot of it is on john boehner and mitch mcconnell. can they say to the base of the party, we need to make this deal. it is good for us politically. it is good for the country policy wise, and we need to move on, or do the grovers of the world win out? >> david, thank you very much. chris cillizza. coming up, more fallout from the david petraeus situation. we'll talking to david ignatius. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses....
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there's the faction that would be amenable to the deal and somebody like john boehner is going to be working toward a deal. and then there's the other side, the more tea party republicans who aren't going to want to accept this, who aren't going to be okay with raising taxes on anyone. and so i think we are going to see a little bit of a fight here. that said, they don't want to be the ones that cause the country to go over the cliff. it's going to be an interesting couple of weeks. >> i think fewer people are more representative of the other side. does grover norquist have any clout? >> he has some. can he stop a short-term deal from being done? it's the desire to never cut a dime from the defense or the military budget. i think the question will be -- we will see a deal, will it be another short-term deal that kind of exchanges the stopping of the sequestration cuts of the military spending increases in favor of something like lifting the cap off social security taxes or adding some taxes to the wealthiest families in addition to the ones that are already going to take effect janua
there's the faction that would be amenable to the deal and somebody like john boehner is going to be working toward a deal. and then there's the other side, the more tea party republicans who aren't going to want to accept this, who aren't going to be okay with raising taxes on anyone. and so i think we are going to see a little bit of a fight here. that said, they don't want to be the ones that cause the country to go over the cliff. it's going to be an interesting couple of weeks. >> i...
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. >> reporter: but house speaker john boehner rejects any hike in tax rates. he would raise revenues by closing loopholes in the tax code. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> reporter: failure to agree by the end of the year would trigger deep spending cuts and tax cuts. that could mean $2,000 more in taxes for the typical household. the jobless rate soaring to 9.1% by the end of the year. and possibly, another recession. boehner and the president were close to a deal last year. the so-called grand bargain, 4 trillion in debt reduction. many think that blueprint still works. >> and the real problem is, uncriminaled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration. >> reporter: experts warn of serious damage to the economy, if the standoff drags on. >> three or four weeks from now, they're making no progress at all, you're going to see the anxiety and the nervousness growing in the markets and the corporate board rooms. >>> two weeks after the destr
. >> reporter: but house speaker john boehner rejects any hike in tax rates. he would raise revenues by closing loopholes in the tax code. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> reporter: failure to agree by the end of the year would trigger deep spending cuts and tax cuts. that could mean $2,000 more in taxes for the typical household. the jobless rate soaring to 9.1% by the end of the year. and possibly, another...
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how about john boehner? speaker of the house, previous speakers have been able to fashion that job into a national leadership role. but john boehner has not done that. no disrespect, but nobody thinks of him as the leader of the republican party. mitt romney did have that job. mitt romney for awhile was the leader of the republican party. we can prove it with evidence. this past june president obama walked out into the rose garden and announced he was going to stop the deportation of kids who were here without papers through no fault of their own. when president obama announced that, beltway reporters immediately went to the republican leaders in congress to see what's the official response from that? what's the official republican position on that issue. here's what the reporters were told by the republicans in congress. "senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said that gop lawmakers will wait for mitt romney to take the lead on immigration policy. most members are interested in what romney has to say abo
how about john boehner? speaker of the house, previous speakers have been able to fashion that job into a national leadership role. but john boehner has not done that. no disrespect, but nobody thinks of him as the leader of the republican party. mitt romney did have that job. mitt romney for awhile was the leader of the republican party. we can prove it with evidence. this past june president obama walked out into the rose garden and announced he was going to stop the deportation of kids who...
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john boehner has the majority but it can't be a majority to make anything happen. >> how different is it than a few years ago? >> it has a few less tea party members and some of the vocal ones but the point is, he needs to be able to -- what kind of speaker would he look like if all he did was produce 40 republicans to make the majority on to a democratic bill? and that doesn't make him look like a leader if it's the democrats that peal off some of his peal in terms of a deal. >> bill, if you're a betting man and how would you bet that this thing plays out. >> the fiscal cliff, we will not go over it. the president has already said sequestration has not happened. the republicans got the message of this election. that's how they are different. it's the same people but then reality has come face-to-face with them. they do not want to be held responsible for a recession. the president never has to pace the voters again. they do. and the fear of god has been struck. >> bill schneider, lynn sweet, stick around. we're going to talk to you later in this hour, if you don't mind. >>> meanwhile
john boehner has the majority but it can't be a majority to make anything happen. >> how different is it than a few years ago? >> it has a few less tea party members and some of the vocal ones but the point is, he needs to be able to -- what kind of speaker would he look like if all he did was produce 40 republicans to make the majority on to a democratic bill? and that doesn't make him look like a leader if it's the democrats that peal off some of his peal in terms of a deal....
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. >> the president's remarks came just hours after house speaker john boehner did his own version of setting the table locking up the good silver and cooking up a romneyesque scheme for more revenue without raising rates on upper income taxpayers. >> i don't want to box myself in, i don't want to box anybody else in. it's clear that there are a lot of special interests loopholes in the tax code, both corporate and personal. there are all kinds of deductions. some of which make sense, others don't, and by lowering rates and cleaning up the tax code, we know that we're going to get more economic growth. >> in other words, mitt's legacy lives on, but what about that electoral trouncing of the republican candidate just this past tuesday? >> it's clear that as a political party we've got some work to do, and i think the principles of our party are sound. but how we talk about wholt we are as a party is clearly conversations are under way and will continue. >> i see. it's not the policy, it's a just how we talk about how we talk about the gop. okay, great. let's get right to our panel in w
. >> the president's remarks came just hours after house speaker john boehner did his own version of setting the table locking up the good silver and cooking up a romneyesque scheme for more revenue without raising rates on upper income taxpayers. >> i don't want to box myself in, i don't want to box anybody else in. it's clear that there are a lot of special interests loopholes in the tax code, both corporate and personal. there are all kinds of deductions. some of which make...
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how about john boehner? speaker of the house, previous speakers have been able to fashion that job into a national leadership role. but john boehner has not done that. no disrespect, but nobody thinks of him as the leader of the republican party. mitt romney did have that job. mitt romney for awhile was the leader of the republican party. we can prove it with evidence. this past june president obama walked out into the rose garden and announced he was going to stop the deportation of kids who were here without papers through no fault of their own. when president obama announced that, beltway reporters immediately went to the republican leaders in congress to see what's the official response from that? what's the official republican position on that issue. here's what the reporters were told by the republicans in congress. "senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said that gop lawmakers will wait for mitt romney to take the lead on immigration policy. most members are interested in what romney has to say abo
how about john boehner? speaker of the house, previous speakers have been able to fashion that job into a national leadership role. but john boehner has not done that. no disrespect, but nobody thinks of him as the leader of the republican party. mitt romney did have that job. mitt romney for awhile was the leader of the republican party. we can prove it with evidence. this past june president obama walked out into the rose garden and announced he was going to stop the deportation of kids who...
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surer is right, john boehner would have cut a deal. but he couldn't, because at the end of the day, had he done so, his own house republicans would have risen up in mutiny. and he would have lost the speakership. whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i think one of the interesting things that boehner said, is this your moment now, mr. president, now leave. that's both the reality and a little bit of trying to pass the buck. but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into the negotiations and to lead, and continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. it is on his shoulders. >> he has to lead publicly as well. >> yes. >> to sell it? >> he has to sell it. you know, there are a couple -- there aren't a lot of republicans i think that play in regards to public pres
surer is right, john boehner would have cut a deal. but he couldn't, because at the end of the day, had he done so, his own house republicans would have risen up in mutiny. and he would have lost the speakership. whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i...
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it's house speaker john boehner. he needs to decide if he takes this country over the fiscal cliff by refusing to bend on tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. as of now, he still says tax cuts are off the table. >> raising taxes on small businesspeople is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about it? >> i've made clear -- >> the wealthier americans pitch in here. >> -- yesterday that raising tax rates is unacceptable. and, frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. >> boehner is boxing himself in by taking all tax increases off the table. today, the president repeated his intention to pass a bill keeping the tax cuts on anyone with income under $250,000. >> the senate has already passed a bill doing exactly this. all we need is action from the house. i've got the pen ready to seen sign the bill right away. i'm ready to do it. >> house republicans are going to have a lot of explaining to do if they don't cut tax -- if they don't pass tax cut extensions on the american peop
it's house speaker john boehner. he needs to decide if he takes this country over the fiscal cliff by refusing to bend on tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. as of now, he still says tax cuts are off the table. >> raising taxes on small businesspeople is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about it? >> i've made clear -- >> the wealthier americans pitch in here. >> -- yesterday that raising tax rates is unacceptable....
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john boehner initially said, listen, president, it's time fur to lead. that's what you saw in that press conference, the president saying look at the map, look at my victory and get what and, oh, yeah, guess what, i've won. >> we've officially renamed the fiscal cliff the fiscal curb. it's a little step down and you keep taking the steps so by the time you goat march or april, there's something significant happening but not right away. but there's a tricky thing here. both sides want to call it a cliff because both sides need drama in order to drive the urgency of their position but i'm wondering if at some point the president doesn't soften this as we get into late december and start to say to people, well, on the first week of january, you're going u just going to see a little step. and we will have time to fix it retroactively. >> i think that's probably what you will hear. i think ultimately this is going to be some kind of compromise. the fiscal cliff, it would be about $6 hup billion worth of tax cuts. i think it is going to be softened. there are
john boehner initially said, listen, president, it's time fur to lead. that's what you saw in that press conference, the president saying look at the map, look at my victory and get what and, oh, yeah, guess what, i've won. >> we've officially renamed the fiscal cliff the fiscal curb. it's a little step down and you keep taking the steps so by the time you goat march or april, there's something significant happening but not right away. but there's a tricky thing here. both sides want to...
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meanwhile, house speaker john boehner remaining opposed to raising these tax cuts. do you think because of a lot of attention and oxygen being taken up in washington, d.c. with what's taking place with petraeus and allen there will be a way for like minds to come to a come prose mize. >> you're absolutely right, thomas. the media coverage is on these emerging facts on petraeus and other cases. the answer is, i think so, i hope so. we're not there yet. we have six weeks to work this out. two parts of the fiscal cliff, are across the board cuts. we'll be able to come one an alternative way to reduce the deficit in a smarter way to avoid that. the tax piece is a lot tougher and a lot bigger, the president as you know, we should immediately act, we the congress, to extend tax relief for 98% of the american people. in fact, taxpayers would get tax relief on first 250,000 in income. if we want to address the long-term deficit, it has to do with the cliff. speaker boehner needs to come forward and put that on the table as the president has done. >> when the president meets
meanwhile, house speaker john boehner remaining opposed to raising these tax cuts. do you think because of a lot of attention and oxygen being taken up in washington, d.c. with what's taking place with petraeus and allen there will be a way for like minds to come to a come prose mize. >> you're absolutely right, thomas. the media coverage is on these emerging facts on petraeus and other cases. the answer is, i think so, i hope so. we're not there yet. we have six weeks to work this out....
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. >> congressman, what is john boehner's next move? what do you think is going to happen? >> he's going to meet with the president. they are going to meet next week. i think he's going to have to face the reality that either now, that is in the lame duck session, their 200-plus democratic votes ready to go on the president's plan. that's about 18 republicans we would need. and boehner has to understand that we actually must work across the aisle to solve this problem. otherwise we're not going to get it done. the american public demands we work together. just imagine what we could do if we actually worked together. we can solve some serious problems. we could do the american jobs act and the infrastructure and rebuild new york and new jersey, desperately needed there. serious investment needs to be made on our infrastructure. we can only do that if we work across the aisle. the president has laid out a very good starting point to get the negotiations underway. >> no doubt. congressman larson, do you think there are any republicans in their caucus that will come over and wo
. >> congressman, what is john boehner's next move? what do you think is going to happen? >> he's going to meet with the president. they are going to meet next week. i think he's going to have to face the reality that either now, that is in the lame duck session, their 200-plus democratic votes ready to go on the president's plan. that's about 18 republicans we would need. and boehner has to understand that we actually must work across the aisle to solve this problem. otherwise...
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it's house speaker john boehner. he needs to decide if he takes this country over the fiscal cliff by refusing to bend on tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. as of now, he still says tax cuts are off the table. >> raising taxes on small businesspeople is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about it? >> i've made clear -- >> the wealthier americans pitch in here. >> -- yesterday that raising tax rates is unacceptable. and, frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. >> boehner is boxing himself in by taking all tax increases off the table. today, the president repeated his intention to pass a bill keeping the tax cuts on anyone with income under $250,000. >> the senate has already passed a bill doing exactly this. all we need is action from the house. i've got the pen ready to seen sign the bill right away. i'm ready to do it. >> house republicans are going to have a lot of explaining to do if they don't cut tax -- if they don't pass tax cut extensions on the american peop
it's house speaker john boehner. he needs to decide if he takes this country over the fiscal cliff by refusing to bend on tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. as of now, he still says tax cuts are off the table. >> raising taxes on small businesspeople is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about it? >> i've made clear -- >> the wealthier americans pitch in here. >> -- yesterday that raising tax rates is unacceptable....
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how about john boehner? speaker of the house, previous republican house speakers have been able to fashion that job into a national leadership role. but john boehner has not done that. i mean no disrespect, but nobody thinks of him as the leader of the republican party. mitt romney did have that job. mitt romney for awhile was the leader of the republican party. we can prove it with evidence. this past june president obama walked out into the rose garden and announced he was going to stop the deportation of kids who were here without papers through no fault of their own. when president obama announced that, beltway reporters immediately went to the republican leaders in congress to see what's the official response from that? what's the official republican position on that issue. here's what the reporters were told by the republicans in congress. "senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said tuesday that gop lawmakers will wait for mitt romney to take the lead on immigration policy. quote, most of our member
how about john boehner? speaker of the house, previous republican house speakers have been able to fashion that job into a national leadership role. but john boehner has not done that. i mean no disrespect, but nobody thinks of him as the leader of the republican party. mitt romney did have that job. mitt romney for awhile was the leader of the republican party. we can prove it with evidence. this past june president obama walked out into the rose garden and announced he was going to stop the...
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house republican john boehner, the republican speaker of the house, says absolutely not. taxes will not rise. it cannot pass the congress. it cannot pass the house. probably can't pass the senate in his estimation. he's digging in his heels. he says we can raise revenues, taxes on the wealthy by closing loopholes. that's the appreciate thoach tho take. there's a lot at stake here if we go over that fiscal cliff. it sounds so ominous because it is. a half a trillion dollars in extra taxes for american families over the course of just one year alone. add to that the cuts in defense and domestic spending $1 trillion over ten years and the cbo estimates the unemployment rate will shoot up to 9.1%. we could go back into another recession. some democrats are encouraging the president to stick to his guns. john yarmouth is one of those. >> if you look behind what they're saying, they're not willing to compromise in any way that touches wealthy americans. i'm not at all set on $250,000. i think that is a number that really is probably the wrong number. when i've had conversations
house republican john boehner, the republican speaker of the house, says absolutely not. taxes will not rise. it cannot pass the congress. it cannot pass the house. probably can't pass the senate in his estimation. he's digging in his heels. he says we can raise revenues, taxes on the wealthy by closing loopholes. that's the appreciate thoach tho take. there's a lot at stake here if we go over that fiscal cliff. it sounds so ominous because it is. a half a trillion dollars in extra taxes for...
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as bill clinton might say, it's just arithmetic. >> john boehner is making his bid for speaker of the house official in eye letter sent to his colleagues he says his priorities are taking on the president and democrats in the senate. he calls house republicans the last line of defense. mitch mcconnell is already thinking about 2014. the day after the election he held a fund-raiser for 1,000 bucks a person you could attend the reception. and here's a great perk about being first lady. michelle obama didn't want to wait until january to watch the third season of "downton abbey" so it sent dvds to the white house. the three of us are -- with hands on hips, where's ours? where's ours? >> if you read only one thing this morning, today's must read is courtesy of the national constitution center, which argues in a fascinating article why the petraeus affair has nothing on the nation's first sex scandal, hint, it included a duel and it's up on our facebook page alt facebook/jansingco. borm the naturally sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker
as bill clinton might say, it's just arithmetic. >> john boehner is making his bid for speaker of the house official in eye letter sent to his colleagues he says his priorities are taking on the president and democrats in the senate. he calls house republicans the last line of defense. mitch mcconnell is already thinking about 2014. the day after the election he held a fund-raiser for 1,000 bucks a person you could attend the reception. and here's a great perk about being first lady....
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could john boehner face another revolt? >>> first, we go back to florida, ground zero for head counts and election nights with no winners, again? this is msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. >>> from his ranch in crawford, texas, governor bush voiced his objections to a third recount of ballots in florida. >> we've had one count and then we had another count. and fortunately, we won both counts. >> by going to court, bush is hoping to insure his lead in florida unofficially a 327-vote marnellen doesn't change in tallahassee today, former secretary of state, james baker, repeated his argument that hand-counting is subjective and unreliable a
could john boehner face another revolt? >>> first, we go back to florida, ground zero for head counts and election nights with no winners, again? this is msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology...
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what the white house is saying and this matters for these negotiations, john boehner's position is he is open to revenue, but not if it includes increasing the top tax rate. he is only doing it through some mystery process of tax reform where you have a large amount of revenue, but still at 35% of the top tax rate or if boehner has his druthers, have a lower tax rate, maybe 28% as in simpson-bowles. the white house doesn't think the math will work out. they believe even when it can, you have to do such radical things like eliminating charitable deduction at the top brackets entirely, it wouldn't be worth doing if you could. their view, it is not a compromise to say in a future tax reform process you're going to get that money, they're not going to sign anything that doesn't include the top tax rate going up at the end of december. >> justin, you were in the room with the president today. can you confirm that quote that the huffington post has, i am not going to budge, i said in 2010 i'm going to do this once and i meant it? >> i actually don't remember if those are his exact words, an
what the white house is saying and this matters for these negotiations, john boehner's position is he is open to revenue, but not if it includes increasing the top tax rate. he is only doing it through some mystery process of tax reform where you have a large amount of revenue, but still at 35% of the top tax rate or if boehner has his druthers, have a lower tax rate, maybe 28% as in simpson-bowles. the white house doesn't think the math will work out. they believe even when it can, you have to...
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. >>> next, john boehner was re-elected yesterday for a second term as speaker of the house, but georgia congressman louis gohmert, an original charter member of the birther crowd, had a different candidate in mind. who do you think he nominated? newt gingrich for speaker right now. you don't technically actually have to be a house member to be speaker of the house, but it's been the rule historically. by the way, boehner's word to gohmert after the vote, "louie, i love you too." >>> finally this one. after the election we heard certain ceos were threatening to fire employees if president obama won the election. some are going through with it. robert murray, ceo of the coal company that ordered employees to attend a rally with mitt romney, laid off 156 employees the day after the election. nice guy. john schneider, ceo of papa john's pizza chain, says he will be cutting employee hours to avoid costs associated with obama care. finally, john metz, ceo of several denny's franchises, says he will add a 5% surcharge to customers' bills to offset the cost of obama care. you don't want to pay
. >>> next, john boehner was re-elected yesterday for a second term as speaker of the house, but georgia congressman louis gohmert, an original charter member of the birther crowd, had a different candidate in mind. who do you think he nominated? newt gingrich for speaker right now. you don't technically actually have to be a house member to be speaker of the house, but it's been the rule historically. by the way, boehner's word to gohmert after the vote, "louie, i love you...
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i think john boehner and barack obama said this has to be a balanced approach. balance is in the eye of beholder in terms of how much of each part of it goes into the final deal. >> susan. >> you know, there's one way that president obama could deal with these questions about specificity, and that's to take some questions from reporters and answer them. this is really unusual for a president just re-elected to come out and talk to the reporters by reading a statement, being surrounded by supporters behind him, and not take questions from the press. you remember there were famous press conferences by president george w. bush when he was re-elected and bill clinton and ronald reagan when he was re-elected. the president can deal with the market's concerns about whether he needs to reach a deal by doing that. >> let me reiterate what we were talking about earlier this hour, you all in particular have been discussing and looking at cabinet decisions. we have reported that there has been conversation about the future of david petraeus. that he was, according to all r
i think john boehner and barack obama said this has to be a balanced approach. balance is in the eye of beholder in terms of how much of each part of it goes into the final deal. >> susan. >> you know, there's one way that president obama could deal with these questions about specificity, and that's to take some questions from reporters and answer them. this is really unusual for a president just re-elected to come out and talk to the reporters by reading a statement, being...
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we'll find out. >> rita, you had a one on one with john boehner. we'll be seeing him again on monday. it sounds at least like his tone is definitely changed. take a listen. >> i remain optimistic that we'll be able to find common ground. i'm the most reasonable and responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. >> did you know that john boehner was the most reasonable person in washington? did you know that? >> no. you said that to me last week. he is sort of the adult in the room in a lot of cases. consider the fact that the members of congress who are freshman and sophomores in their first two terms, the highest number since world war ii, we've got all of these new people coming to washington who don't know how the town works, how the legislating process works and everybody sort of wants to fix everything right away and they wanted to fix it on their own terms. john boehner has been around for a long time and sort of knows how these deals work, how to stitch togethe
we'll find out. >> rita, you had a one on one with john boehner. we'll be seeing him again on monday. it sounds at least like his tone is definitely changed. take a listen. >> i remain optimistic that we'll be able to find common ground. i'm the most reasonable and responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. >> did you know that john boehner was the most reasonable person in washington? did...
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. >>> we here want to wish a very happy birthday from all of us to speaker john boehner, 63 years young tomorrow. we also hope it isn't too late for the speaker to turn over a new leaf in his leadership of the house of representatives. for two years now you have run the lower chamber as if obstructing the president was more important than allowing the country to make progress. there was an emphatic election victory which only shows the people's desire for compromise. john larson from connecticut is joining us. >> good afternoon. >> the president's first term, as you know, was marked by unprecedented levels of obstruction, the debt ceiling do backcle led to the downgrading of the u.s. we know the stock market is already showing signs of anxiety, and the president has just won an overwhelming victory. what more does speaker boehner require to reach an agreement with the president? >> well, i think speaker boehner has struck the right tone. clearly both from election -- the day after the election and including today we had the opportunity to meet with leader pelosi afterwards who was very
. >>> we here want to wish a very happy birthday from all of us to speaker john boehner, 63 years young tomorrow. we also hope it isn't too late for the speaker to turn over a new leaf in his leadership of the house of representatives. for two years now you have run the lower chamber as if obstructing the president was more important than allowing the country to make progress. there was an emphatic election victory which only shows the people's desire for compromise. john larson from...
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harry reid, mitch mcconnell, john boehner, nancy pelosi, president obama. market rundown is next plus our daily rundown of undecided races including which democrat is being vetted on the hill though his race isn't officially over. first today's trivia question. who is the only speaker of the house to be elected president? [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. gives you a low national plan premium... so you can focus on what really matters. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. >>> breaking news this morning. we have the angus king news, nancy pelosi news, lots of other stuff on our radar. democrats are keeping a close eye on the vote tally in arizona and senator scott brown is hinting at his political future. first as new members make their way to capitol hill, allen west continues to fight for his seat. west has now filed a complained in st. lucie county y
harry reid, mitch mcconnell, john boehner, nancy pelosi, president obama. market rundown is next plus our daily rundown of undecided races including which democrat is being vetted on the hill though his race isn't officially over. first today's trivia question. who is the only speaker of the house to be elected president? [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100...
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so far that idea has been shot down by the republican speaker of the house, john boehner, by john mccain's own bff in the senate, joe lieberman, he also disagrees with mr. mccain on this. same goes for susan collins of maine who did go to the classified briefing yesterday and noted publicly that john mccain was not there. even though it was his committee. mccain's special investigation idea was also shot down today by republican senator richard burr who said, quote, i think you've got to allow the structure we have of oversight to function and i think the intelligence committee is more than capable of handling this. in other words, the senate is getting information so maybe we should, you know, get information instead of continuing to scream on tv about not getting information. here's how you know when somebody is being disingenuous. when they demand something and then you give them that thing that they just keep demanding about and they pretend that you're not giving it to them and they just keep making the demand anyway as if it hasn't been met. john mccain obviously sees some advantage
so far that idea has been shot down by the republican speaker of the house, john boehner, by john mccain's own bff in the senate, joe lieberman, he also disagrees with mr. mccain on this. same goes for susan collins of maine who did go to the classified briefing yesterday and noted publicly that john mccain was not there. even though it was his committee. mccain's special investigation idea was also shot down today by republican senator richard burr who said, quote, i think you've got to allow...